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Forum: Speaking and Listening 21st December 2007, 11:30 AM

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Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

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Posted By Mugi


Re: Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

And indeed Hangzhou still is in the south :wink:. Hangzhou is a bit of an anomoly though (along
with a couple of other places too, Nanjing being one of them) - the native language has been
heavily...



Forum: Speaking and Listening 18th December 2007, 09:41 AM

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Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

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Re: Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

Cantonese is definitely easier than Taiwanese (at least in my experience) - there's no tone sandhi
to worry about!



Forum: Speaking and Listening 17th December 2007, 01:49 PM

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Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

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Re: Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

While some people in Taiwan may use 花生 for peanut, and many more (if not most people)
understand the term, 土豆 most certainly means "peanut" in Taiwan as is regular (most common)
term for peanut.

14...



Forum: Speaking and Listening 17th December 2007, 01:46 PM

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Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

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Re: Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

Actually, it is you who is categorically wrong. Mandarin is the name in English given to a group
of dialects which share certain common characteristics in terms of pronunciation, grammar and
lexicon....



Forum: Speaking and Listening 14th December 2007, 02:23 PM

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Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

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Posted By Mugi


Re: Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

The first part of this sentence is wrong - Beijing dialect is most definitely Mandarin. But it
isn't Modern Standard Mandarin, which is what many people mistake it for.



Forum: Speaking and Listening 12th December 2007, 01:42 PM

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Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

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Re: Taiwanese Mandarin to Chinese Mandarin

Some do, but they are intentionally mimicking Taiwanese, or unintentionally mimicking people that
are intentionally mimicking Taiwanese!



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Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

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Re: Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

Thanks for all the incredible quick corrections.Besides some unnecessary, strange IME typo's, all
the corrections really helped me. I'm starting to see some kind of pattern in the mistakes that
I'm...



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Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

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Re: Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

#16 -...



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Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

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Re: Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

I fear a bunch of mistakes in #17 买东西...



Forum: Speaking and Listening 19th April 2008, 10:44 PM

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Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

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Re: Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

#18...



Forum: Speaking and Listening 18th April 2008, 06:12 PM

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Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

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课文 #19 - 赴宴

Yale's Listening & Speaking's #19 - 赴宴...



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Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

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Yale 130 L&S Transcripts

The Yale Chinese CH130 website (http://classes.yale.edu/chns130/) provides us kindly with the
audio recordings of David and Helen in China and Listening & Speaking Chinese. The first 15 (of
the total...



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translation for sentences re: food allergy

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Posted By trien27


Re: translation for sentences re: food allergy

我对贝壳类海鲜，有致命性的过敏。
I have a fatally allergic reaction towards any seafood that has shells.

包括虾类，蚝油，蚝，蚌和蟹类。
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Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 2nd October 2007, 07:29 PM

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Random new word of the day

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Re: Random new word of the day

磨蹭 - mo2ceng , to idle. Can be used to tell someone off when your in a hurry to get somewhere
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Random new word of the day

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Re: Random new word of the day

Here is a new word I have learnt: hua1ler hua1ler de. No idea how to write it in characters
though. Apparently used to describe the sound of water being shaken. I learnt it from this
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Forum: Grammar and Vocabulary 14th May 2008, 07:01 AM

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How to squeeze the most out of chinese TV shows??

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Re: How to squeeze the most out of chinese TV shows??

I don't do news casts yet. Honestly I think the best way to improve listening is to meet real
people and just talk, talk, and talk. Somehow real life talk is better for training the ears than
tv...



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How to squeeze the most out of chinese TV shows??

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Re: How to squeeze the most out of chinese TV shows??

Interesting.

Is the HSK vocab list available online? I've gone through HSK papers before but I mean just
reading it superficially to pick up new words.



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How to squeeze the most out of chinese TV shows??

Recently, I've been fiddling around with this method where while watching a chinese TV show
(usually online), I tend to pause whenever unfamiliar/new words appear and then i write/type them
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Most complicated chinese character seen?

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Let me give it a shot. The numbers below...

Let me give it a shot. The numbers below correspond to the single strokes.

1. Do the left falling stroke of the top element of the character.
2. Do the top and top right of the highest...



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Total Number of Chinese characters

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I'm fairly certain this is a mistranslation - the...

I'm fairly certain this is a mistranslation - the number of characters in a common one-volume
dictionary is around 8000-13,000 (the 《应用汉语词典》 I have in front of me lists 10,000
in the preface, and it...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 15th November 2007, 08:02 AM

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more sentences

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Re: more sentences

Then tell us what the cartoons / books are :mrgreen:

It's not a major issue, and you're getting plenty of answers which is the main thing. I just think
the more background info you present the more...



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more sentences

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Re: more sentences

No problem with you posting new topics, but you might find you actually get a better response
posting them all in one topic - then people who've already replied will get the email alert to
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Forum: Reading and Writing 6th February 2004, 11:35 AM

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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

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they're also good human beings, which is nice to...

they're also good human beings, which is nice to see in people who are rich and famous... cheung's
voice is so amazing. even as he gets older, he maintains the power and smoothness...



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Should I Learn Mandarin or Cantonese

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mandarin opens some doors. cantonese opens other...

mandarin opens some doors.
cantonese opens other doors.

don't be afraid to speak with your own accent.
just watch the tones and you'll be fine. :p



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Poll: Traditional vs Simplified characters

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I mostly stuck to the simplified characters in...

I mostly stuck to the simplified characters in the past, but when I came back to the states I
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Teachers who teach Traditional Characters?!! Why?

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Teachers who teach Traditional Characters?!! Why?

Is it a political statement to teach traditional characters in university?
Shouldn't students be learning simplified characters?

I only see simplified in China.... so I wonder why waste time on...



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I Hate Hanzi

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Re: I Hate Hanzi

^:lol: well said



Forum: Reading and Writing 30th November 2007, 12:00 AM

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I Hate Hanzi

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Re: I Hate Hanzi

The main thing to realize when learning hanzi is to not lose sight of the goal...the point is to
learn to read, not to evaluate the system. The system won't change so you might as well get used
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Forum: Reading and Writing 7th February 2004, 01:19 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

Posted By Ian_Lee


Now it is back to square 1. Every community can...

Now it is back to square 1.

Every community can choose to use whatever script he/she likes.

But if any fellow posters think that because of sheer numeric superiority, then the script which
more...



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th February 2004, 09:30 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

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Singapore is the world's largest Chinatown -- but...

Singapore is the world's largest Chinatown -- but also the most non-Chinese one.

You can hardly find Chinese road sign or shop sign in the city. Most people in their 30s-50s don't
know Chinese at...



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Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

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IMHO, Britons should adopt Singlish since its...

IMHO, Britons should adopt Singlish since its former colony's GNP/capita has already surpassed
hers.

Of course, those obsolete words like lorry, fortnight, bloke,...etc should be given up for good.



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th February 2004, 09:11 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

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Smithsjq: Taiwan and Hong Kong were hardly any...

Smithsjq:

Taiwan and Hong Kong were hardly any advanced economies in the 1950s when the written script
started to divert. Hong Kong's GDP/capita had been always lower than that of Guangzhou and...



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th February 2004, 05:09 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

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Guest: All our posts are just in reply to the...

Guest:

All our posts are just in reply to the OP's question -- traditional or simplified scripts -- which
to learn from.

I strongly recommend OP to learn the traditional script by pointing out the...



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th February 2004, 02:40 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

Posted By Ian_Lee


Some of the present simplified script (but not...

Some of the present simplified script (but not all) adopted by CCP has been used previously. But
does that mean that since it has been used (mostly in Caoshu -- cursory writing for aesthetic...



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th February 2004, 07:48 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

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Roddy: In rebuking me, you are also guessing...

Roddy:

In rebuking me, you are also guessing that 後 is more frequently used than either xiang or gang.

By the way, why don't you ask Quest for character frequency table when Quest first "guessed"...



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th February 2004, 07:42 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

Posted By Ian_Lee


Roddy: Does such table exist?

Roddy:

Does such table exist?



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th February 2004, 07:30 AM

Replies: 79

Simplified vs. Traditional

Views: 6,760

Posted By Ian_Lee


Here is the first character of Macau (Aomen) in...

Here is the first character of Macau (Aomen) in traditional script:

澳 -- 16 strokes

Look it in bigger character from Macau Daily:
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Forum: Reading and Writing 5th February 2004, 01:16 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


If the simplification aims to simplify more...

If the simplification aims to simplify more common characters, then how come the two characters
Hong Kong (Xianggang) with 9 strokes and 11 strokes are not simplified?

These two characters are as...



Forum: Reading and Writing 4th February 2004, 02:18 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


If the simplification process aims mainly to...

If the simplification process aims mainly to improve literacy by decreasing the strokes, then how
come 後 with only 9 strokes has to be lessened to 后 which still has 6 strokes while the
19-stroke...



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd February 2004, 10:01 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


Skylee: I agree that whichever has the cultural...

Skylee:

I agree that whichever has the cultural clout (popular culture in particular) has the upperhand.

But I just checked People's Daily top 10 entertainment news of 2003. Four of them were...



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd February 2004, 07:31 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


Quest: You do not address the issue why in the...

Quest:

You do not address the issue why in the neutral area where there is no government decree the
simplified script is still not prevalent.

If PRC thinks that simplified script is so wonderful...



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd February 2004, 06:21 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


Quest: Actually I don't oppose the...

Quest:

Actually I don't oppose the simplification of written script.

But such process should be gradual and natural. What Beijing has done was government decree
without considering the...



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd February 2004, 02:14 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


After all, simplification is not related to...

After all, simplification is not related to easiness in learning or IT.

Just look at the other official minority language in PRC -- Mongolian.

In Buryat Republic of Russia and the Mongolia...



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd February 2004, 01:43 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


It seems timc18 suffers the same "simplified...

It seems timc18 suffers the same "simplified script sydrome" as I do.

Actually there is another phenomenon of "Good language replaces bad language". In many places
outside Mainland China, the...



Forum: Reading and Writing 31st January 2004, 09:24 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


Roddy: I guess many people in HK and Taiwan...

Roddy:

I guess many people in HK and Taiwan suffer "simplified script sydrome". I know many people got
dizziness after continuously reading 3-4 pages article in simplified script (including me and...



Forum: Reading and Writing 31st January 2004, 09:18 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


Again it depends on whether you want to refreshen...

Again it depends on whether you want to refreshen your Chinese after you go home.

In US, almost all the Chinese newspapers are printed in traditional script -- even including those
PRC mouthpieces. ...



Forum: Reading and Writing 31st January 2004, 02:59 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


Jamie: It all depends on where you plan to...

Jamie:

It all depends on where you plan to stay.

In most big Mainland cities like Guangzhou, Shenzhen or Shanghai, many people will understand if
you write in traditional script.

But probably most...



Forum: Reading and Writing 30th January 2004, 10:42 AM

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Simplified vs. Traditional

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Posted By Ian_Lee


Usually the simplified script is more reserved...

Usually the simplified script is more reserved for those having learning difficulty.

For smart people like Mao Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping or Jiang Zemin, they all wrote in traditional
script and...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 7th August 2005, 03:26 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

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Posted By shibo77


duan3 yu3 zai4 ha4 yu3 zhong1 ju4 you3 fei1...

duan3 yu3 zai4 ha4 yu3 zhong1 ju4 you3 fei1 chang2 zhong4 yao4 de5 di4 wei4. han4 yu3 de5 yu3yan2
dan1 wei4 fen1 wei4 wu3 ji2, sui1 shuo1 yu3 su4 yu3s su4 zu3 he2 cheng2 chi2, chi2 he2 chi2 zu3
he2...



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th August 2005, 08:30 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

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Posted By shibo77


If it lowers down the average Chinese, it would...

If it lowers down the average Chinese, it would only lower the average Chinese down to the level
that the written language and the speaking language are equals, just like English. English uses
a...



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th August 2005, 07:10 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

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Posted By shibo77


Wow, so much replies in so short a time. Sorry if...

Wow, so much replies in so short a time. Sorry if I didn't explain myself well. I started this
post to explain the obvious fact that it is possible to write Chinese in a purely phonetic script.
I am...



Forum: Reading and Writing 3rd August 2005, 12:22 PM

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Chinese in purely phonetic script

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Posted By shibo77


Chinese in purely phonetic script

Chinese could be written in a purely phonetic script, which means the script is based solely on
the sound of the language. Basically the grapheme matches the phoneme of the morpheme.

Not only...



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Forum: Reading and Writing 7th June 2004, 06:51 AM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By skylee


As I dare not argue with you (I am not as...

As I dare not argue with you (I am not as informed and persistent as you are, IM very HO), I have
amended that sentence to read "convey information to me".



Forum: Reading and Writing 6th June 2004, 07:32 PM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By skylee


sm_sung, good observation. Characters do convey...

sm_sung, good observation. Characters do convey information to me much more effectively.

The truth is I am usually very impatient with things written in pinyin and wouldn't bother to read
them...



Forum: Reading and Writing 2nd June 2004, 11:14 PM

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Posted By skylee


A tongue twister 繞口令 perhaps? Take a look at...

A tongue twister 繞口令 perhaps?

Take a look at this thread
(http://www. /viewtopic.php?t=1237&highlight=%E7%9F%B3%E5%AE%A4). The
following is copied from 林彪's post -


If you...



Forum: Reading and Writing 2nd June 2004, 10:54 PM

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Posted By skylee


er ... that is not a "poem" ...

er ... that is not a "poem" ...



Forum: Reading and Writing 1st June 2004, 07:18 AM

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Characters are objectively harder, even for Chinese

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Posted By skylee


I agree. :clap I find the response TO 39's...

I agree. :clap

I find the response TO 39's post of "7 original sins" patronising ... " Your English is good
enough to know that ...", "I suggest you do some more reading ..."



Forum: Reading and Writing 21st May 2004, 05:06 PM

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Posted By skylee


Generalisation. Too much of it.

Generalisation. Too much of it.



Forum: Reading and Writing 7th May 2004, 07:37 AM

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Posted By skylee


I like this - "a waste of my youth". ...

I like this - "a waste of my youth". :D

I think one's youth is meant to be wasted. :mrgreen:



Forum: Reading and Writing 5th May 2004, 07:38 AM

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Posted By skylee


This is sad. But thanks to word processors you...

This is sad. But thanks to word processors you now can easily find the traditional form -> 裏



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Forum: Reading and Writing 9th January 2006, 01:21 PM

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Stroke Order

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Posted By malinuo


A major reason to stick to the standard stroke...

A major reason to stick to the standard stroke order today is computer character recognition.
Dictionaries for Palm and the Windows IMEs use the stroke order as a help to find the right
character....



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Forum: Reading and Writing 25th November 2004, 05:25 PM

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Japanese Kanji

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Posted By marcopolo79


我個人的經驗是無論是韓國人,越南人,或日本人,幾乎所有的住在東亞洲文化�
��內受到教育的人至少認識數百個...

我個人的經驗是無論是韓國人,越南人,或日本人,幾乎所有的住在東亞洲文化�
��內受到教育的人至少認識數百個漢字,不過並不意味他們看得懂基礎現代中�
��.我本身是非華人的美國人,中文學了六年了左右,看粵文的資料看得懂大約��
�八成,看日文的資料看得懂大約四五成.東亞洲文化圈內的語言共同來源是文�
��文,而不是現代的語言,至於當代日本人看中文資料看得懂多少,我猜想不到��
�成吧,不過他們學得很快.有趣的是,資料越複雜,越正...



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